| Bablu |
| | Jan 12, 2007 | | #1 |
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a)Who was the actual founder of Pharala- Baaba Hardial or Baaba Hundaal, Or Baaba Hadyal? b)Where did he come from? c)Is there any Temple/Gurudwara in his memory in the village? Thanks! 
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| Joe Singh |
| | Jan 13, 2007 | | #2 |
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OLD MAN'S NAME WAS 'HADAL'. STILL WE REMEMBER HIM AS 'BABA HADAL'. HE WAS THE FOUNDER OF PHARALA. THERE IS NO GURDWARA ON HIS NAME. BECAUSE HE LIVED BEFORE THE GURDWARA SYSTEM. WHEN SEVENTH GURU CAME TO PHARALA THE VILLAGE HAD BEEN ESTABLISHED PROPERLY. THERE IS A SEAT OF BABA HADAL OR GADDHI OF BABA HADAL NEAR GABHLA KHUH YOU CAN A RED THARRA. HE USED TO SIT THERE AND LISTNEN VILLAGERS PROBLEMS. THAT IS A HOLY PLACE FOR PHARALAVI. PEOPLE STILL LIT DEEVA THERE AND BOW THERE HEAD. BABA HADAL LIVED MORE THAN HUNDRED YEARS. HE BROUGHT THE OTHER CASTS TO PHARALA. FOR EXAMPLE JHEER CAST CAME FROM NEARBY VILLAGE MUNNA AND PUNDIT CAME FROM A VILLAGE NEARBY JALANDHAR AND SO ON. MOST OF THE JATT PEOPLE CAME FROM RAJASTHAN. ACCORDING TO MOST POPULAR THEORY A TRIBE WAS DOING SOME BUSINESS OF TAKING THE GOODS FROM SOUTH TO NORTH. THE TRIBE WAS USING CAMELS AS TRANSPORT. WHEN LOOTERS OR DACCU OR EVEN ARMY DISTURBED THEM THEY STARTED TO FIND THE PLACES TO SETTLE DOWN. THE TRIBE WAS KNOWN AS 'UT WALE' MEANS CAMEL OWNERS.ATWAL IS CORRUPTED WORD OF UTWAL. SOME PEOPLE WRITE THEMSELVES ATHWAL BECAUSE THEY CALL CAMEL 'UTH' OR 'OOTH' AND IN OUR AREA WE CALL CAMEL 'UT' OR 'OOT'. ATWAL OR ATHWAL IS SAME THING JUST DIFFERENCE OF PRONUNCIATION. |
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| hapinderpal atwal |
| | Feb 06, 2007 | | #3 |
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I listened from old mans that BABA HADAL was from village neola.It is now in hariana.It is near hariana and rajasthan's boarder. |
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| raj sangar |
| | Feb 12, 2007 | | #4 |
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MY DAD KAMAL DEV is from this village.WE STILL HAS A HOUSE IN PHARALA THAT IS TAKEN CARE BY MY UNCLE SUBHASH. WHENEVER I GO TO INDIA I ALWAYS VISIT THIS VILLAGE. |
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| Jagjiv Sangar |
| | Sept 30, 2007 | | #5 |
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Dear Friends, I am from Urmar Tanda (Distt: Hoshiarpur) and we have our Jathere in Pharala .I am glad to see this website and appreciate it. Further,does anybody know the history of Sangar family (saraswat brahmin clan) and can confirm the gotra(kushal or kaushal).
Regards/
Er.Jagjiv Sangar |
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| Sukhvinder singh |
| | Nov 13, 2007 | | #6 |
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Sat sri akal everyone near village bharoli is very famous gurudwara Shaheed Baba Hardyal singh jee. I am so very lucky
I reach every saturday & sunday Bharoli. Sandhva Danda sahib gurudwara is very big & beautiful. Bharoli & Sandhva beautiful village. Sukhvinder singh |
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| chander kumar sangar |
| | May 07, 2008 | | #7 |
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Hi
I belong to Saraswat brahmin family from village Kathar..District Jalandhar near Adampur Doaba..Our Gotra is Sangar and we have our Jathere situated in village Kathar itself...it is there for the centuries before and it was in a very miserable conditon and lot of encroachments..but now it is free from encroachments and we have made a nice Bhawan for the Jathere....if any body has chance to visit pls do so it is in the village kathar and is quite opposite the Village Gurudwara....and it is called Jathere Brahmina Gotra Sangar I dont think that the every Brahimin of Sangar Gotra is from Farala....and I agree that there are lot of Sangar families lives there....Pls let me know if anybody knows more about our ancestors...Let the all Sangar families have a common platform....Could it be possible?
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| hemant chaudhary |
| | Aug 01, 2010 | | #8 |
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| hi. i am hemant chaudhary. our gotra is kushal. i want to know about place of our jathere. my grandfather was belonging to pakistan and shifted to india at the time of partition. |
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| ranju |
| | Sept 12, 2010 | | #9 |
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hi. i am ranju devgun. our gotra is kushal. i want to know about place of our jathere. my grandfather was belonging to pakistan and shifted to india at the time of partition. |
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| sunaina |
| | April 02, 2011 | | #10 |
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JATHERAY
DO ANYONE KNOW WHO ARE 'KAPOOR'S JATHERAY.
OUR SUB-CASTE IS 'KAUSHAL'.
ARE THEY DIFFERENT FROM 'PITERA' WHOM WE WORSHIP DURING 'SHRAAD'.
CAN U PLS ASK UR ELDERS N LET US KNOW. |
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